Dec 29, 2021·edited Dec 29, 2021Liked by NE - nakedemperor.substack.com
The most likely explanation for this observation is a catch-up effect: for several months after vaccination, vaccinated people had a lower infection rate than unvaccinated people. As a result, there were more infected and “recovered” people per 100,000 among the unvaccinated than among the vaccinated.
Once the narrow vaccine (spike) protection had declined (and Omicron showed up) infections among vaccinated people started catching up. The higher ratio of unvaccinated infected would have developed broad-epitope immunity, covering Omicron.
However, OAS and ADE should definitely not be dismissed going forward.
What is clear is that we need to maintain a statistically significant unvaccinated population to allow for important public health metrics. Their role in this is far better served that way than the endless (and disturbingly unscientific) attempts to eliminate them as a control group population. The forced mandates by proxy of removing civil liberties also needs to stop.
Dec 22, 2021·edited Dec 22, 2021Liked by NE - nakedemperor.substack.com
Death rates increasing in same paste with injection rates in Finland fall 2021. Clear statstic evidence of vaccinated becoming ill. Non vaccinated healthier, but still targeted- against science. The coronavirus killed only 8 work aged persons in 2020. (THL) By august 2021 1300 deaths from vaccines directly, plus lowered immunity, ADE etc other non direct negative effects vaccines on health. The vaccines do NOT PROTECT enough, the vaccine protection is short, the vaccine may cause other negative health effects in long run. There is data world wide already in few months. Normal virus cycle is interrupted with vaccines. Need reset of health care i Covid. Natural immunity is robust strong and wider than given by vaccines, proven by 130 studies globally. Epidemology is clear, of vaccinated also spreading virus. Vaccinations are not effective, have negative impact on heath, they must be ceased.
Dec 26, 2021Liked by NE - nakedemperor.substack.com
This thread has been like watching a tennis match. My neck hurts. And I’m still unclear on what it all really means. But having said that my takeaway is and remains: What are we doing with a mass worldwide injection of an experimental drug with a questionable safety profile that may be causing immune escape (and god knows what else) if the vaccinated are getting any type of Covid? This was not intended as a therapeutic so spare me that headfake. Full stop.
Dec 28, 2021Liked by NE - nakedemperor.substack.com
There is likely some sampling bias here, with people likely to get vaccinated also more likely to test when they are sick offset? by increased testing for unvaccinated people.
What IS clear is that the case for vaccines has eroded past any reasonable assertion that they should be compulsory.
Dec 21, 2021Liked by NE - nakedemperor.substack.com
Thank you for the write up. As I understand it, the higher likelihood of the vaccinated to get omicron is a conditional likelihood: Given the Condition of a positive test, how likely is the variant in the testee to be omicron. If a vaccine was to give perfect protection against all variants but omicron, then the vacinees would get only omicron and the likelihood would be sky high. No ADE is needed to explain this result, yet it still is a distinct possibility. I wrote this to get it straight for myself :)
They buried the lede on the last page: negative vaccine effectivness for days 91-150 since full vaccine protection for the mrna-vaccines.
Of course this finding can have many underlying mechanisms. ADE is a distinct possibility. Other mechanisms include behavioral differences between vaccinated and unvaccinated.
Dec 29, 2021Liked by NE - nakedemperor.substack.com
It's to bad we can't fight faith with reason.
Historically, we've seen it a century or so ago, when modernism promised Utopia in all fields.
And when modernism failed, as techno-fetischism always must, the peoples of Europe turned to authoritarian leaders who promised that salvation comes through enduring hardships and punishing The Others.
Look at the EU today.
Politicians and prophets of profit who for twenty years have promised the perfect world. No disease. No hunger. No homelessness. No war. All the horsemen given permanent leave.
Look at how these technocrats, corporativists and synarchists act as something they cannot control appears. Authoritarian, totalitarian, dictatorial, and flailing about like Polyphemus.
It is a blessing that this isn't a truly dangerous virus, like measles.
Dec 22, 2021Liked by NE - nakedemperor.substack.com
What is troubling here is that the natural immunity according to the same table also increases the chances of getting omicron. Either the data is not right or we are slowly getting into a Marek's scenario ...
I believe the pcr tests are actually picking up the vaccine some how, this would explains how the more vaccinated you are th more likely you are to “catch” it ….. what if the flu like symptoms we are seeing are actually vaccine side effects.
This is very misleading. The survey you are referring to is "early analysis of characteristics associated with the Omicron variant among Covid-19 infections". Note: among Covid-19 infection. So this is the statistics among those who were infected by some Covid-19, what are the chances that it's Omicron if you're vaccinated, unvaccinated etc.
It does not mean that vaccinated people are more likely to get the Omicron. It means that if you were infected by Covid-19, the more vaccinated you are - the higher the probability that it's Omicron. Which makes a lot of sense given that the vaccines are much less effective against Omicron than against Delta.
The most likely explanation for this observation is a catch-up effect: for several months after vaccination, vaccinated people had a lower infection rate than unvaccinated people. As a result, there were more infected and “recovered” people per 100,000 among the unvaccinated than among the vaccinated.
Once the narrow vaccine (spike) protection had declined (and Omicron showed up) infections among vaccinated people started catching up. The higher ratio of unvaccinated infected would have developed broad-epitope immunity, covering Omicron.
However, OAS and ADE should definitely not be dismissed going forward.
What is clear is that we need to maintain a statistically significant unvaccinated population to allow for important public health metrics. Their role in this is far better served that way than the endless (and disturbingly unscientific) attempts to eliminate them as a control group population. The forced mandates by proxy of removing civil liberties also needs to stop.
Death rates increasing in same paste with injection rates in Finland fall 2021. Clear statstic evidence of vaccinated becoming ill. Non vaccinated healthier, but still targeted- against science. The coronavirus killed only 8 work aged persons in 2020. (THL) By august 2021 1300 deaths from vaccines directly, plus lowered immunity, ADE etc other non direct negative effects vaccines on health. The vaccines do NOT PROTECT enough, the vaccine protection is short, the vaccine may cause other negative health effects in long run. There is data world wide already in few months. Normal virus cycle is interrupted with vaccines. Need reset of health care i Covid. Natural immunity is robust strong and wider than given by vaccines, proven by 130 studies globally. Epidemology is clear, of vaccinated also spreading virus. Vaccinations are not effective, have negative impact on heath, they must be ceased.
This thread has been like watching a tennis match. My neck hurts. And I’m still unclear on what it all really means. But having said that my takeaway is and remains: What are we doing with a mass worldwide injection of an experimental drug with a questionable safety profile that may be causing immune escape (and god knows what else) if the vaccinated are getting any type of Covid? This was not intended as a therapeutic so spare me that headfake. Full stop.
There is likely some sampling bias here, with people likely to get vaccinated also more likely to test when they are sick offset? by increased testing for unvaccinated people.
What IS clear is that the case for vaccines has eroded past any reasonable assertion that they should be compulsory.
>Up until the latest release, the results were consistent with a vaccine that worked,
> albeit one who’s efficacy was waning quickly. Those who received one dose were
> less likely to test positive for COVID-19 than those not vaccinated.
If this is referring to the weekly PHE data (https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-surveillance-reports) this is incorrect. If not, then you should take a look there. That data has shown since before week 35 (week 50 data is the latest) that there has been negative vaccine efficacy for most age groups.
Thank you for the write up. As I understand it, the higher likelihood of the vaccinated to get omicron is a conditional likelihood: Given the Condition of a positive test, how likely is the variant in the testee to be omicron. If a vaccine was to give perfect protection against all variants but omicron, then the vacinees would get only omicron and the likelihood would be sky high. No ADE is needed to explain this result, yet it still is a distinct possibility. I wrote this to get it straight for myself :)
Cheers
From what I understand there is not a single case of anyone contracting Covid a second time. Can you show me proof this has happened?
There is some Danish original research that finds negative vaccine effectivness:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.20.21267966v2
They buried the lede on the last page: negative vaccine effectivness for days 91-150 since full vaccine protection for the mrna-vaccines.
Of course this finding can have many underlying mechanisms. ADE is a distinct possibility. Other mechanisms include behavioral differences between vaccinated and unvaccinated.
With PCR test, how can they differentiate between covid, delta, omicron or any other variant?
Cos you mentioned in the article the following “of which 115 tested positive compatible with Omicron”
It's to bad we can't fight faith with reason.
Historically, we've seen it a century or so ago, when modernism promised Utopia in all fields.
And when modernism failed, as techno-fetischism always must, the peoples of Europe turned to authoritarian leaders who promised that salvation comes through enduring hardships and punishing The Others.
Look at the EU today.
Politicians and prophets of profit who for twenty years have promised the perfect world. No disease. No hunger. No homelessness. No war. All the horsemen given permanent leave.
Look at how these technocrats, corporativists and synarchists act as something they cannot control appears. Authoritarian, totalitarian, dictatorial, and flailing about like Polyphemus.
It is a blessing that this isn't a truly dangerous virus, like measles.
What is troubling here is that the natural immunity according to the same table also increases the chances of getting omicron. Either the data is not right or we are slowly getting into a Marek's scenario ...
Greater illness and injury in the inoculated arm than in the placebo arm. From Canada Covid Care Alliance.
https://rumble.com/vqx3kb-the-pfizer-inoculations-do-more-harm-than-good.html
Does anyone know if NE's data are cases/thousand or gross cases?
Berenson's data appears to be gross case counts.
If there is a way to aggregate data from UK, Demark, and Canada, the evidence of ADE/OAS, if exists, will be clearer with the bigger dataset.
I believe the pcr tests are actually picking up the vaccine some how, this would explains how the more vaccinated you are th more likely you are to “catch” it ….. what if the flu like symptoms we are seeing are actually vaccine side effects.
This is very misleading. The survey you are referring to is "early analysis of characteristics associated with the Omicron variant among Covid-19 infections". Note: among Covid-19 infection. So this is the statistics among those who were infected by some Covid-19, what are the chances that it's Omicron if you're vaccinated, unvaccinated etc.
It does not mean that vaccinated people are more likely to get the Omicron. It means that if you were infected by Covid-19, the more vaccinated you are - the higher the probability that it's Omicron. Which makes a lot of sense given that the vaccines are much less effective against Omicron than against Delta.