Like hell he is. Every syllable is RuZZian propaganda. The Orcs are the ones shooting their own soldiers for failing to stay under fire and die.
I'm all for free speech, in every respect, but I'm sorry, I draw a very big line at outright lies.
Where are his statements decrying Putrid for attacking schools, hospitals, restaurants and shopping centres when every day they resort to mass murder and genocide?
Oh, there aren't any! Funny that. No, he prefers to slander everyone trying to stay alive in their own country that has been invaded on completely false pretences and for that, quite honestly, his rank stupidity is going to come back to bite him... and probably already has.
There are plenty of US citizens who would prefer to support RuZZia for some absolutely incomprehensible reason. They are giving a green light to destruction that is masqueraded as "liberation" and that is just wrong. Look at the cities that have been "liberated" like Melitapol, Mariupol, Bakhmut and the bombings in Odessa... if that's what liberation looks like, it's no wonder that the Ukrainians are putting up such an incredible fight when it would have been far easier to cave in and for Zelensky to then run away like the cowards usually do, not to say "I want ammunition, not a ride!"
Good to know that the RuZZian trolls are active in so many places… are the shops in St Petersburg running out of vodka yet? You’ll have to start making your own. No doubt you’ll be able to steal some potatoes from somewhere given that grain is going to be in short supply!
So maybe he made a choice some think wasn't a good one - he still doesn't deserve to be treated like this, especially he doesn't deserve to have his country ignore him when he needs them. Shame on U.S. govt - this is what is in store for the rest of us if Biden/deep state stays in power. His only "crime" was to express his opinon.
What are the odds that Russia really is dark and ruthless, but so is the United States?
I can't see going from being communist to not-communist (Democratic?) and there not being a huge remnant of communism left behind. Did they purge their government? And the US has gone full communist.
I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm asking a question.
I have a hard time fully absolving Russia because of their past and truly believe many of those ideas are still in force today. But I know our government goes around starting wars to line their pockets and increase their power. Basically, two communist, corrupted governments going after each other and Ukraine is paying the price.
Agreed, but Putin has done alot of good for his country and he's fighting the globalists. The only reason he started a conflict was because Ukraine totally ignored his numerous warnings for NATO to quit threatening Russia - they left Putin no choice but to invade. Even then, soldiers didn't harm the citizens in Ukraine, they tried to help them escape to safety.
CL, you're wasting your time arguing with trolls. They will simply keep swamping you with their propaganda and wear you down with it. DW is pretty good with his twists and turns, not bad at all for the troll factory, but, in the end, that's all it is... a pack of lies that keep churning out because that's what he's paid to do.
No one is calling Lira a savior, he is simply a journalist trying to report truth. USSR hasn't existed since 1991 and Russia is MUCH different than when it was communist. I know this for a fact, having been there in 1977, spent 3 weeks in hospital talking with Russians and what I see now is completely different than communism.
Excellent and thorough explanation, thank you. I"ve followed events in Russia and Ukraine ever since I was there in both countries in 1977. Have Russian and Ukrainin friends as well, who verify what you are saying.
You don't like Putin because he doesn't wear a shirt when he rides a horse? And no he doesn't lament demise of USSR, if that was true, he would have ensured Russia went back to Communism. but he hasn't. He has instead endorsed Christian religion and restored the Russian Orthodox church, opened up all the churches, all of which were closed when I was there in 1977. He isn't a globalist, like the communists are part of, he kicked out federal reserve about 10 yrs ago.
You mean the USSR? The US induced the Soviets to invade Afghanistan, a country on their border at the time, by funding the mujahideen, as Carter's national security adviser Brzezinski admitted in an interview in 1998. The US started funding and arming the mujahideen *before* the Soviets invaded... The US coup'd the democratically elected Ukraine government in 2014 and installed their own guy, sparking a civil war in which about 15,000 Ukrainians were killed before Russia invaded, most of them ethnic Russians in the Donbass region. The terms of both Minsk accords were also ignored by Ukraine/the West while NATO trained Ukrainian troops in preparation for a war with Russia. Ukraine hasn't "existed on its own" since at least 2014. https://dgibbs.arizona.edu/content/brzezinski-interview-2
Bullshit. Do you actually believe self-important policy wonks like Victoria Nuland who thinks she was a "mover and shaker" when she only was a glorified cheerleader. Nobody among the thousands of Ukrainians at the Revolution of Dignity at Maidan ever heard of her. Try listening to Ukrainians like Andriy (Operator Starsky) who were actually at Maidan and was wounded. You're getting a distorted picture from second-third-fourth hand "pundits" who don't know they are being Putin's "useful idiots".
As for "agreements", instead of going to shotgun "agreements" forced on Ukraine in 2015, go back to the Budapest Memorandum in 1994 where Russia, the US, and the UK "guaranteed" the security of Ukraine in exchange for Ukraine surrendering what was at the time the world's third-largest nuclear arsenal to Russia. That, unlike Minsk, was an actual Treaty (part of the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty).
Maybe I'm confused but I had read that Stalin had pretty much killed or otherwise moved all the Ukrainians to labor camps, that if they survived the labor camps, they were not allowed to return to their homes and families but we're sent elsewhere until they were picked up again and sent back to the labor camps, that he did that all throughout the region and basically killed off entire populations. At least, that's what Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn claimed. 🤷♀️
I believe he is married to an Ukrainian woman and has 2 children. He had been living in Kharkov for several years before this war. I think he is valid in his commentary and blogging of this war. It's just inconvenient for the Ukrainian authorities to have his voice heard.
They could've silenced him any time. He was permitted to continue...much in the same vein as before the 1st arrest. Scott Ritter offered a v strong case for not trusting him. Eva Bartlett now sceptical, as r a number of Russian sources on Twitter. The Duran + Brian Berletic appear to believe GL. Time will tell I suppose.
I learned of this earlier today. Poor Lira, it’s too bad he didn’t make it in. His plan was not good, posting a long Twitter thread about it IN ADVANCE and then trying to carry it out. He could have at least said he was fleeing to Poland or something, or could have tried going to Belarus.
Check YouTube videos ISO 8601 timestamp of his YT videos using YouTube Data API. From this you can tell that there is a considerable time difference between the videos publication and the time of recording (judging from the sunlight). It is quite clear to me that he SCHEDULED his posts and videos, meaning that he did not publicly share anything before his attempts. Also, this is the only way it all makes sense.
Gonzalo has said that he has been posting, in the hope that this means it is harder for them to "memory hole" him. At least now his story is out there and we are aware of what has been happening to him - and what will be his likely fate.
Isn't it funny how when there's REAL stories of "attacks on journalism", the media is silent? Isn't attacking the press a danger to democracy and all that?
The first obvious example of this was the network’s reaction to Tucker Carlson dropping 1/6 footage on FOX — as well as its reaction to the reaction.
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer: "Rupert Murdoch has a special obligation to stop Tucker Carlson from going on tonight [and] from letting him go on again and again and again [because] our democracy depends on it."
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell: “It was a mistake in my view for Fox News to depict this in a way that is completely at variance with what our chief law enforcement official here at the Capitol thinks.”
Here we have a bipartisan full-court press on a reporter, coming from literally the most powerful members of the Senate. Surely this is a prime example of attacks on the press that 'dangerously undermine truth and consensus’, or even worse are ‘an attack on American democracy’.
ABC News must be firing both barrels against this egregious assault on our deeply held American principles, right? Perhaps by demanding public release of all videos (finally)?
Thank you for this article. It earned my paid subscription . I watched all of his videos when the war kicked off. Not sure how I even came upon him. His “System Pigs” is one of my favorite. US tax money enabled this. US taxpayers: how do you feel about funding Gonzalo’s demise (among the many other abominations going on)?
There’s always a choice. People sacrificed themselves, their very lives, to do the right thing. The “right thing” usually comes with a cost. Otherwise it’s “the easy thing”. Obviously there will always be more people up for the easy than the good. That’s why the one’s who do are so inspiring. That being said, I, for one, won’t try to make anyone feel better about their lack of courage and/or integrity.
And these are the people the Biden administration is sending billions of our tax dollars to. Our present administration is despicable. Where will America go to get her reputation back?
Free speech is one of the main pillars of a democracy - and it is being eroded everywhere these days. Coming soon to a country near you! (Or most likely, already here.)
In another universe, Amnesty International would be on Gonzalo's case - but these days, Amnesty International is too busy campaigning to make "Conversion Therapy" (counselling for those with sexual orientation or gender confusion) illegal.
I kid you not - that is the latest from them here in Australia.
If you want to get the full picture, watch Kubrick's movie "Clockwork Orange".
However, there is quite a continuum from counselling someone about gender dysphoria to full-on conversion therapy (which apart from being brutal, more importantly doesn't work - and that is from a retired clinical/forensic psychologist who worked with sex offenders in a correctional setting & did a bit of research & training on this.)
Amnesty International Australia (along with all the other Woke people) is claiming that some massive proportion of LBTetc people has been subjected to "conversion therapy", in fact including any attempt at counselling.
If I were homo-oriented, I would be pretty pissed off at being lumped in with gender dysphoria & transexuals - it's not at all the same thing, not even vaguely related.
And you're quite right - all this gender dysphoria thing is horrendous preying on the normal identity development of children & adolescents.
He must have had his reasons because he would have had to travel across the whole country to get to Hungary. Maybe he thought he would be killed if captured by Ukrainian forces on the border.
Gonzalo specifically talked about his in one of the 3 videos (towards the end). He said that he had thought of going to Russia - but the front is all mined, and while there are probably ways through, he could not find anyone who seemed to be able to help with this. Same with crossing a border to Hungary without going through a checkpoint - it is harder than you might think.
Maybe it was provocation because he would then be able to make all sorts of claims about torture and murder threats when he was arrested. You said it yourself, they're allegations, no proof. This is way too suspect and appears to have played into his hands, rather than the other way around.
As a chilean-argentinian, he should be familiar with the practice of letting a suspect go. That piece about getting an ankle-brcelet monitor as a condition for his release and then being released without is among the oldest tricks in the book for corrupt dictatorships like Ukraine: the suspect is told "don't worry, it's a formality, you'll get it later" and is let out.
Then, a different squad and a different prosecutor arrests the suspect for violating parole.
The response to Liam Cosgrove's reasonable question about Gonazlo Lira's situation as an American Citizen, was curt and rather rude. It confirmed the obvious that he has been targeted, quite possibly as a scapegoat to set an example so others don't follow. It makes me wonder and think that the US, UK and friends are involved. I would be surprised it they haven't created a list of dissidents in terms of the opinions people express about the war in Ukraine?
Oh wait, they already have with the Myrotvorets kill list which, as you know includes some 30 children.
Oh God I hope not. I have enjoyed his videos, and he is the only one trying to get the truth out to us.
Praying...Dear God, please let him escape somehow and get to Hungary
"he is the only one trying to get the truth out"!
Like hell he is. Every syllable is RuZZian propaganda. The Orcs are the ones shooting their own soldiers for failing to stay under fire and die.
I'm all for free speech, in every respect, but I'm sorry, I draw a very big line at outright lies.
Where are his statements decrying Putrid for attacking schools, hospitals, restaurants and shopping centres when every day they resort to mass murder and genocide?
Oh, there aren't any! Funny that. No, he prefers to slander everyone trying to stay alive in their own country that has been invaded on completely false pretences and for that, quite honestly, his rank stupidity is going to come back to bite him... and probably already has.
There are plenty of US citizens who would prefer to support RuZZia for some absolutely incomprehensible reason. They are giving a green light to destruction that is masqueraded as "liberation" and that is just wrong. Look at the cities that have been "liberated" like Melitapol, Mariupol, Bakhmut and the bombings in Odessa... if that's what liberation looks like, it's no wonder that the Ukrainians are putting up such an incredible fight when it would have been far easier to cave in and for Zelensky to then run away like the cowards usually do, not to say "I want ammunition, not a ride!"
Good to know that the RuZZian trolls are active in so many places… are the shops in St Petersburg running out of vodka yet? You’ll have to start making your own. No doubt you’ll be able to steal some potatoes from somewhere given that grain is going to be in short supply!
Nice try, but being intellectually deficient means it doesn't come off they way you expected... just a bit lame.
Keep writing your Kremlin propaganda or you will be conscripted sooner rather than later.,
Hungary as being a major trojan horse would send him back ASAP...
So maybe he made a choice some think wasn't a good one - he still doesn't deserve to be treated like this, especially he doesn't deserve to have his country ignore him when he needs them. Shame on U.S. govt - this is what is in store for the rest of us if Biden/deep state stays in power. His only "crime" was to express his opinon.
This is like a cold-war spies story.
What are the odds that Russia really is dark and ruthless, but so is the United States?
I can't see going from being communist to not-communist (Democratic?) and there not being a huge remnant of communism left behind. Did they purge their government? And the US has gone full communist.
I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm asking a question.
I have a hard time fully absolving Russia because of their past and truly believe many of those ideas are still in force today. But I know our government goes around starting wars to line their pockets and increase their power. Basically, two communist, corrupted governments going after each other and Ukraine is paying the price.
Agreed, but Putin has done alot of good for his country and he's fighting the globalists. The only reason he started a conflict was because Ukraine totally ignored his numerous warnings for NATO to quit threatening Russia - they left Putin no choice but to invade. Even then, soldiers didn't harm the citizens in Ukraine, they tried to help them escape to safety.
CL, you're wasting your time arguing with trolls. They will simply keep swamping you with their propaganda and wear you down with it. DW is pretty good with his twists and turns, not bad at all for the troll factory, but, in the end, that's all it is... a pack of lies that keep churning out because that's what he's paid to do.
No one is calling Lira a savior, he is simply a journalist trying to report truth. USSR hasn't existed since 1991 and Russia is MUCH different than when it was communist. I know this for a fact, having been there in 1977, spent 3 weeks in hospital talking with Russians and what I see now is completely different than communism.
Excellent and thorough explanation, thank you. I"ve followed events in Russia and Ukraine ever since I was there in both countries in 1977. Have Russian and Ukrainin friends as well, who verify what you are saying.
You don't like Putin because he doesn't wear a shirt when he rides a horse? And no he doesn't lament demise of USSR, if that was true, he would have ensured Russia went back to Communism. but he hasn't. He has instead endorsed Christian religion and restored the Russian Orthodox church, opened up all the churches, all of which were closed when I was there in 1977. He isn't a globalist, like the communists are part of, he kicked out federal reserve about 10 yrs ago.
You mean the USSR? The US induced the Soviets to invade Afghanistan, a country on their border at the time, by funding the mujahideen, as Carter's national security adviser Brzezinski admitted in an interview in 1998. The US started funding and arming the mujahideen *before* the Soviets invaded... The US coup'd the democratically elected Ukraine government in 2014 and installed their own guy, sparking a civil war in which about 15,000 Ukrainians were killed before Russia invaded, most of them ethnic Russians in the Donbass region. The terms of both Minsk accords were also ignored by Ukraine/the West while NATO trained Ukrainian troops in preparation for a war with Russia. Ukraine hasn't "existed on its own" since at least 2014. https://dgibbs.arizona.edu/content/brzezinski-interview-2
Bullshit. Do you actually believe self-important policy wonks like Victoria Nuland who thinks she was a "mover and shaker" when she only was a glorified cheerleader. Nobody among the thousands of Ukrainians at the Revolution of Dignity at Maidan ever heard of her. Try listening to Ukrainians like Andriy (Operator Starsky) who were actually at Maidan and was wounded. You're getting a distorted picture from second-third-fourth hand "pundits" who don't know they are being Putin's "useful idiots".
As for "agreements", instead of going to shotgun "agreements" forced on Ukraine in 2015, go back to the Budapest Memorandum in 1994 where Russia, the US, and the UK "guaranteed" the security of Ukraine in exchange for Ukraine surrendering what was at the time the world's third-largest nuclear arsenal to Russia. That, unlike Minsk, was an actual Treaty (part of the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty).
Maybe I'm confused but I had read that Stalin had pretty much killed or otherwise moved all the Ukrainians to labor camps, that if they survived the labor camps, they were not allowed to return to their homes and families but we're sent elsewhere until they were picked up again and sent back to the labor camps, that he did that all throughout the region and basically killed off entire populations. At least, that's what Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn claimed. 🤷♀️
I believe he is married to an Ukrainian woman and has 2 children. He had been living in Kharkov for several years before this war. I think he is valid in his commentary and blogging of this war. It's just inconvenient for the Ukrainian authorities to have his voice heard.
They could've silenced him any time. He was permitted to continue...much in the same vein as before the 1st arrest. Scott Ritter offered a v strong case for not trusting him. Eva Bartlett now sceptical, as r a number of Russian sources on Twitter. The Duran + Brian Berletic appear to believe GL. Time will tell I suppose.
I learned of this earlier today. Poor Lira, it’s too bad he didn’t make it in. His plan was not good, posting a long Twitter thread about it IN ADVANCE and then trying to carry it out. He could have at least said he was fleeing to Poland or something, or could have tried going to Belarus.
It was a strange thing to do but maybe the more coverage he got, the safer he thought he would be.
Check YouTube videos ISO 8601 timestamp of his YT videos using YouTube Data API. From this you can tell that there is a considerable time difference between the videos publication and the time of recording (judging from the sunlight). It is quite clear to me that he SCHEDULED his posts and videos, meaning that he did not publicly share anything before his attempts. Also, this is the only way it all makes sense.
Spot on. Pro tip, if you are going to jump bail, don't post to the internet that you intend to jump bail.
Gonzalo has said that he has been posting, in the hope that this means it is harder for them to "memory hole" him. At least now his story is out there and we are aware of what has been happening to him - and what will be his likely fate.
Isn't it funny how when there's REAL stories of "attacks on journalism", the media is silent? Isn't attacking the press a danger to democracy and all that?
https://simulationcommander.substack.com/p/media-spectacularly-proves-my-point
The first obvious example of this was the network’s reaction to Tucker Carlson dropping 1/6 footage on FOX — as well as its reaction to the reaction.
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer: "Rupert Murdoch has a special obligation to stop Tucker Carlson from going on tonight [and] from letting him go on again and again and again [because] our democracy depends on it."
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell: “It was a mistake in my view for Fox News to depict this in a way that is completely at variance with what our chief law enforcement official here at the Capitol thinks.”
Here we have a bipartisan full-court press on a reporter, coming from literally the most powerful members of the Senate. Surely this is a prime example of attacks on the press that 'dangerously undermine truth and consensus’, or even worse are ‘an attack on American democracy’.
ABC News must be firing both barrels against this egregious assault on our deeply held American principles, right? Perhaps by demanding public release of all videos (finally)?
Not exactly.
Thank you for this article. It earned my paid subscription . I watched all of his videos when the war kicked off. Not sure how I even came upon him. His “System Pigs” is one of my favorite. US tax money enabled this. US taxpayers: how do you feel about funding Gonzalo’s demise (among the many other abominations going on)?
Gotta separate the people from their government. Most tax payers don’t want any of these things. But we don’t really have a choice in the matter.
There’s always a choice. People sacrificed themselves, their very lives, to do the right thing. The “right thing” usually comes with a cost. Otherwise it’s “the easy thing”. Obviously there will always be more people up for the easy than the good. That’s why the one’s who do are so inspiring. That being said, I, for one, won’t try to make anyone feel better about their lack of courage and/or integrity.
Retweeted and share already - not sure what else I can do, I pray for him 😊🙏
Let's stop pretending Ukraine has self-determination. The US wanted Lira arrested and disappeared. Therefore, he was, is...
And these are the people the Biden administration is sending billions of our tax dollars to. Our present administration is despicable. Where will America go to get her reputation back?
Thank you for posting about this.
Free speech is one of the main pillars of a democracy - and it is being eroded everywhere these days. Coming soon to a country near you! (Or most likely, already here.)
In another universe, Amnesty International would be on Gonzalo's case - but these days, Amnesty International is too busy campaigning to make "Conversion Therapy" (counselling for those with sexual orientation or gender confusion) illegal.
I kid you not - that is the latest from them here in Australia.
All we can do is continue to raise awareness.
If you want to get the full picture, watch Kubrick's movie "Clockwork Orange".
However, there is quite a continuum from counselling someone about gender dysphoria to full-on conversion therapy (which apart from being brutal, more importantly doesn't work - and that is from a retired clinical/forensic psychologist who worked with sex offenders in a correctional setting & did a bit of research & training on this.)
Amnesty International Australia (along with all the other Woke people) is claiming that some massive proportion of LBTetc people has been subjected to "conversion therapy", in fact including any attempt at counselling.
If I were homo-oriented, I would be pretty pissed off at being lumped in with gender dysphoria & transexuals - it's not at all the same thing, not even vaguely related.
And you're quite right - all this gender dysphoria thing is horrendous preying on the normal identity development of children & adolescents.
"Gonzalo Lira Disappears"
You spelled 'is murdered' incorrectly.
He should have gone to Russia.
He must have had his reasons because he would have had to travel across the whole country to get to Hungary. Maybe he thought he would be killed if captured by Ukrainian forces on the border.
Gonzalo specifically talked about his in one of the 3 videos (towards the end). He said that he had thought of going to Russia - but the front is all mined, and while there are probably ways through, he could not find anyone who seemed to be able to help with this. Same with crossing a border to Hungary without going through a checkpoint - it is harder than you might think.
Maybe it was provocation because he would then be able to make all sorts of claims about torture and murder threats when he was arrested. You said it yourself, they're allegations, no proof. This is way too suspect and appears to have played into his hands, rather than the other way around.
As a chilean-argentinian, he should be familiar with the practice of letting a suspect go. That piece about getting an ankle-brcelet monitor as a condition for his release and then being released without is among the oldest tricks in the book for corrupt dictatorships like Ukraine: the suspect is told "don't worry, it's a formality, you'll get it later" and is let out.
Then, a different squad and a different prosecutor arrests the suspect for violating parole.
The response to Liam Cosgrove's reasonable question about Gonazlo Lira's situation as an American Citizen, was curt and rather rude. It confirmed the obvious that he has been targeted, quite possibly as a scapegoat to set an example so others don't follow. It makes me wonder and think that the US, UK and friends are involved. I would be surprised it they haven't created a list of dissidents in terms of the opinions people express about the war in Ukraine?
Oh wait, they already have with the Myrotvorets kill list which, as you know includes some 30 children.
This is really disturbing. I posted the news and shared this article here - https://wholistic.substack.com/p/gonzalo-lira-gone
Hoping to hell he reappears. He has disappeared before.
There is something wrong with this story, I cannot quite swallow it. I hear the drip drip drip of distraction.
Yes something not quite right but whatever it is, an American citizen shouldn't be in jail for posting his opinions.
Praying for Gonzolo.