Asking whether one prefers a ' Ukraine Elon Musk' or a 'Russia Elon Musk' is distracting and nonsensical. Let's stick to the essentials of the situation.
If he really wanted to help humanity, with the means he has, he could have done it a long time ago. It did not occur to him to build "towers" in times of energy crisis... Interesting. On the other hand, gaining attention he does nice.
I only didn't vote on whether Musk should support Ukraine or Russia. An ideal solution should benefit both sides and I think Zelenskyy's question is disingenuous. Musk being realistic and proposing peace doesn't mean he supports Russia.
I couldn't answer that question either, because the right answer was not among the answer-options indeed. A real solution is a solution that supports both sides.
I avoided that question too because it is "loaded". There is a presumption he must support one side or the other. "With us or against us" as some reckless politician once said.
It seems to me that ANY peace plan will be automatically rejected by the Ukraine group. Zelensky is enjoying being a hero in the West and nobody is looking into his off-shore companies. As long as the war continues, he is a war-hero. If the war ends, then what?
Keep it going for as long as possible, then get out and run around giving lectures and interviews.
On the western side Ukraine is a proxy war for the globalists. It is being used to further the New World Order and Agenda 2030 by forcing shortages of energy and food that take on global proportions. The globalists have destroyed public health in much of the world and want to do the same to food and energy, and for the same reason, which is to control the masses and depopulate the earth. As for Putin, he is no globalist and wants NATO and the US out of Ukrainian and Russian affairs including the elimination of the neo-Nazi threat posed by Ukraine and eventually a return to the Russian security zone similar to what was provided by the USSR.
You got it. The real mission. This is just another Davos crisis added to their list since their Plandemic. These creeps just can't get enough. They are such demented psychopath parasites that I could see them actually deliberately trying to provoke a nuclear war. The uber-rich class have been buying super-bunkers by the thousands.
SHOCKING! Dire Warning From Worlds Top Bunker Contractor
And they prefer living in bunkers for the rest of their lives? Nucleair bombs aren't the sort of bombs that after the bombings you can leave your bunker and continue to live you live, because evertything is gone and all what is left is a place where people can't live because of all kinds of deadly threats everywhere.
Depends whether it is a full scale nuclear war or just a limited exchange, like a tit-for-tat. Full scale nuclear war, alongside of anti-missile shields on the NATO side would not be total devastation. But it would certainly be the Great Reset in its full glory. Klaus Schwab & gang have orgasms just thinking about it. You're dealing with demented Psychopaths you know.
Indeed I know, and thank you very much explaining that not all nucleair attacks destruct everthing immedeatly but I am not totally at ease yet I am afraid ;-))
Anything the LGBFJB regime, the lame stream media, “celebrities” & other useful idiots are for, I am vehemently against. And that doesn’t make me “for” Russia. Both countries are corrupt but I can see the threat Russia feels from another corrupt entity like NATO.
I have been struck all along that NO ONE in the world is talking about diplomacy & a peaceful resolution. Gosh, it’s almost as if this “war” was planned as a distraction when WuFlu petered out & as cover for ongoing plans for food & fuel shortages & other machinations of the great reset. Or to blame everything on Putin
Indeed. It fits exactly the global plandemic. This didn't happen without bad people starting it, so if the only solution possible, a peaceful one is not wanted, or not even talked about, there are again bad people ruling the misery. And if it exactly fits on numerous points the plandemic, and doesn't conflict it nowhere, it would be very suprising to me too if this 'almost war' has not been arranged by the same people... and if so, they were integrated in each directly I guess because of the perfect cooperational work they did with the same desastrous result
Yeah, Ukraine or Russia? Who should Musk support? Neither.
I hate this frenzy for killing other people's sons. Just heard the BBC reporter talking about seeing dead Russians and implying they were cowards running away. They were human beings!!!!
The whole of the western world should hang their heads in shame for supporting this terrible fighting. Ukraine can't win unless the west provides the weapons. If Biden wants a fight with Putin how about in a ring with gloves?
I think the second poll question “ Which Elon Musk do you like more?” is based on a false implied premise that Musk’s proposal is biased toward Ukraine or Russia. I did not respond to that question because I think Musk’s proposal offers a fair resolution based on the regional and global realities of the situation and is not biased towards either country.
Its a cinch that whatever Zelensky says comes straight from the CIA. Its also a cinch that Musk, since he is one of the biggest "defense" contractors, is also speaking for the CIA.
So this is the CIA talking to itself.
Apparently they're doing it this way because they want to communicate a little sense to their overlords at Blackrock and Vanguard. They are only trying to communicate this because they know that when they lose in Ukraine that will be the last card holding up the house of cards and the dollar regime will come to an end, along with their organization.
You are right about Zelensky but Musk is an outsider. He is fervently against their energy poverty depopulation agenda. After all he wants to colonize Mars. Musk is a creator, a builder, the CIA/Davos parasites don't build, don't create, they just destroy things. Building is hard, takes skill & intelligence, destroying things is easy, give a 10yr old a hammer and he can easily destroy $million in hardware.
Yeah, so he's a techie geek. Don't believe all this technocracy bullshit in the alternative media, it's a diversion. The Davos rulers are Club-of-Rome Malthusians who want to create a Neo-feudal totalitarian World government of which we are just impoverished serfs.
The Davos rulers are Malthusians *and* Technocrats. Its 2 for 1 evil. They want a much smaller population with democracy abolished in favor of technocracy. Not just wanting but killing to get it too. Haven't they taught you this yet there at the Ministry of Information? Go and ask your commanding officer.
Yeah, some technocracy based on energy poverty, food supply shortages, de-industrialization, impoverishment, wind & solar power & hydrogen scams. Do you have any idea of what Technocracy is? And BTW I ain't a Technocracy proponent, so don't use Strawman arguments.
You have learned the badgering techniques taught by Big Brother well, for example to keep accusing me of not knowing things. You are a deep state troll and its unfortunate that you have been turned loose to infest Substack. We are done here.
BTW, another company is more advanced than Musk's Neuralink. They are using a stent to feed electrodes into the brain through an artery. Same idea, allow paraplegics to regain some rudimentary use of their limbs. Perhaps treat some neurological disorders.
No it ain't scary. Musk's Neuralink is potentially a way to allow paraplegics to regain some use of their limbs. A laudable goal. Possibly one day Neuralink will be a method to have a better typewriter. So you can mentally transmit text to a computer. It would be handy dandy. But no I ain't interested in getting a hole in my head in order to type faster, my keyboard is plenty fast enough for me. Undoubtedly some people will want a hole in their head, just because they think it would be cool. Most likely the best Neuralink will do is allow paraplegics to have some rudimentary use of their non-functional limbs some day. Although a lot of analysts figure Neuralink is gonna go belly up.
The REAL human modification of concern by a factor of a 1000X is this mRNA DNA editing (compulsory through vaccine mandates) which even the Covid vaccine does. That is a dangerous path that is right here, right now. Believe it. Forget Neuralink. Forget Transhumanism. That is fake news and a distraction. The REAL problem is the Davos psychopath parasites are Malthusians. And want enforced poverty combined with major population reduction. Musk wants population growth.
Humm, considering the effort and brain power that increasingly appear will be required to navigate the new millennium, do think Musk would rather populate Mars with driven survivors or born parasites? 'Cause I believe a huge pre-test is coming up.
Volunteers who will pay to go would be his objective. Mars will not be an escape for Earth "survivors", the number who could go to Mars will be insignificant compared to the World population.
I'm reminded of the scene in "Gone With The Wind" where Rhett Butler tells a roomful of Southern boys how futile it will be to go to war with the North. They respond by yelling at and deriding him, then running out as fast as they can to join the Southern forces. Of course, they all end up dead in the long run.
I can't believe how so many want to continue the war and are so far removed from humankind they don't even care about the loss of human life that entails. Bring on the bot/human transition, people are too stupid to exist as they are.
It's very easy to be pro-war when you know you won't end up in a foxhole.
My father is career military, a lifer so to speak. He, his colleagues and friends both his age and mine and younger too are all as anti-war as you can be without being a hippie.
Because they are soldiers, they've done tours of duty in warzones, and they know what war is.
The businessmen and bankers puppeteering politicians and media and thereby us are all fortunate sons with the silver spoon firmly lodged you-know-where.
There's too much money being funneled to corrupt parties in Ukraine. They don't want to the money to stop, and so they don't want any assistance to stop the war.
Ukrain will fight exactly as long as they are told (by US). The goal of the Military Industrial Intelligence Complex (MIIC) is not peace or reduce conflict, but rather to expand the Empire. By any means necessary. I trust Elon knows this - he is a smart man.
Wanting peace and supporting the Ukraine military with $80 million of Starlink indicate a lack of coherent thought on Musk's part, especially if he expects Ukraine to lose.
He ain't the World's richest man, not even close, that's all bullshit. The Bankster club are $trillionaires, Rothschilds, Rockefellers, etc., they just hide their wealth and tell rags like Forbes, do not print our wealth or else.
Asking whether one prefers a ' Ukraine Elon Musk' or a 'Russia Elon Musk' is distracting and nonsensical. Let's stick to the essentials of the situation.
Zelensky does not know how.
Zelensky is just another tool of Davos, same as Bidensky.
If he really wanted to help humanity, with the means he has, he could have done it a long time ago. It did not occur to him to build "towers" in times of energy crisis... Interesting. On the other hand, gaining attention he does nice.
100% He never would have built a single environment-destroying Tesla.
Yeah, once he picks a side he's useless as an arbitrator.
Exactly
I only didn't vote on whether Musk should support Ukraine or Russia. An ideal solution should benefit both sides and I think Zelenskyy's question is disingenuous. Musk being realistic and proposing peace doesn't mean he supports Russia.
I couldn't answer that question either, because the right answer was not among the answer-options indeed. A real solution is a solution that supports both sides.
I avoided that question too because it is "loaded". There is a presumption he must support one side or the other. "With us or against us" as some reckless politician once said.
It seems to me that ANY peace plan will be automatically rejected by the Ukraine group. Zelensky is enjoying being a hero in the West and nobody is looking into his off-shore companies. As long as the war continues, he is a war-hero. If the war ends, then what?
Keep it going for as long as possible, then get out and run around giving lectures and interviews.
On the western side Ukraine is a proxy war for the globalists. It is being used to further the New World Order and Agenda 2030 by forcing shortages of energy and food that take on global proportions. The globalists have destroyed public health in much of the world and want to do the same to food and energy, and for the same reason, which is to control the masses and depopulate the earth. As for Putin, he is no globalist and wants NATO and the US out of Ukrainian and Russian affairs including the elimination of the neo-Nazi threat posed by Ukraine and eventually a return to the Russian security zone similar to what was provided by the USSR.
You got it. The real mission. This is just another Davos crisis added to their list since their Plandemic. These creeps just can't get enough. They are such demented psychopath parasites that I could see them actually deliberately trying to provoke a nuclear war. The uber-rich class have been buying super-bunkers by the thousands.
SHOCKING! Dire Warning From Worlds Top Bunker Contractor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2A-zH_IHLw
And they prefer living in bunkers for the rest of their lives? Nucleair bombs aren't the sort of bombs that after the bombings you can leave your bunker and continue to live you live, because evertything is gone and all what is left is a place where people can't live because of all kinds of deadly threats everywhere.
They’re really not long-term thinkers, despite their attempts at such.
Depends whether it is a full scale nuclear war or just a limited exchange, like a tit-for-tat. Full scale nuclear war, alongside of anti-missile shields on the NATO side would not be total devastation. But it would certainly be the Great Reset in its full glory. Klaus Schwab & gang have orgasms just thinking about it. You're dealing with demented Psychopaths you know.
Indeed I know, and thank you very much explaining that not all nucleair attacks destruct everthing immedeatly but I am not totally at ease yet I am afraid ;-))
Biden family’s business interests in UA are a dead giveaway what this is really about
Biden Inc.
Anything the LGBFJB regime, the lame stream media, “celebrities” & other useful idiots are for, I am vehemently against. And that doesn’t make me “for” Russia. Both countries are corrupt but I can see the threat Russia feels from another corrupt entity like NATO.
I have been struck all along that NO ONE in the world is talking about diplomacy & a peaceful resolution. Gosh, it’s almost as if this “war” was planned as a distraction when WuFlu petered out & as cover for ongoing plans for food & fuel shortages & other machinations of the great reset. Or to blame everything on Putin
Indeed. It fits exactly the global plandemic. This didn't happen without bad people starting it, so if the only solution possible, a peaceful one is not wanted, or not even talked about, there are again bad people ruling the misery. And if it exactly fits on numerous points the plandemic, and doesn't conflict it nowhere, it would be very suprising to me too if this 'almost war' has not been arranged by the same people... and if so, they were integrated in each directly I guess because of the perfect cooperational work they did with the same desastrous result
Bingo!
Yeah, Ukraine or Russia? Who should Musk support? Neither.
I hate this frenzy for killing other people's sons. Just heard the BBC reporter talking about seeing dead Russians and implying they were cowards running away. They were human beings!!!!
The whole of the western world should hang their heads in shame for supporting this terrible fighting. Ukraine can't win unless the west provides the weapons. If Biden wants a fight with Putin how about in a ring with gloves?
Under UN supervision. LOL
I think the second poll question “ Which Elon Musk do you like more?” is based on a false implied premise that Musk’s proposal is biased toward Ukraine or Russia. I did not respond to that question because I think Musk’s proposal offers a fair resolution based on the regional and global realities of the situation and is not biased towards either country.
Its a cinch that whatever Zelensky says comes straight from the CIA. Its also a cinch that Musk, since he is one of the biggest "defense" contractors, is also speaking for the CIA.
So this is the CIA talking to itself.
Apparently they're doing it this way because they want to communicate a little sense to their overlords at Blackrock and Vanguard. They are only trying to communicate this because they know that when they lose in Ukraine that will be the last card holding up the house of cards and the dollar regime will come to an end, along with their organization.
You are right about Zelensky but Musk is an outsider. He is fervently against their energy poverty depopulation agenda. After all he wants to colonize Mars. Musk is a creator, a builder, the CIA/Davos parasites don't build, don't create, they just destroy things. Building is hard, takes skill & intelligence, destroying things is easy, give a 10yr old a hammer and he can easily destroy $million in hardware.
Sure. And he named his kid with a number.
https://www.technocracy.news/elon-musk-the-modern-torch-bearer-for-historic-technocracy/
Yeah, so he's a techie geek. Don't believe all this technocracy bullshit in the alternative media, it's a diversion. The Davos rulers are Club-of-Rome Malthusians who want to create a Neo-feudal totalitarian World government of which we are just impoverished serfs.
The Davos rulers are Malthusians *and* Technocrats. Its 2 for 1 evil. They want a much smaller population with democracy abolished in favor of technocracy. Not just wanting but killing to get it too. Haven't they taught you this yet there at the Ministry of Information? Go and ask your commanding officer.
https://www.technocracy.news/boston-review-whats-wrong-with-technocracy-2/
Now please don't bother me any more.
Yeah, some technocracy based on energy poverty, food supply shortages, de-industrialization, impoverishment, wind & solar power & hydrogen scams. Do you have any idea of what Technocracy is? And BTW I ain't a Technocracy proponent, so don't use Strawman arguments.
You have learned the badgering techniques taught by Big Brother well, for example to keep accusing me of not knowing things. You are a deep state troll and its unfortunate that you have been turned loose to infest Substack. We are done here.
Chip in your brain? He sounds as scary as they come
BTW, another company is more advanced than Musk's Neuralink. They are using a stent to feed electrodes into the brain through an artery. Same idea, allow paraplegics to regain some rudimentary use of their limbs. Perhaps treat some neurological disorders.
No it ain't scary. Musk's Neuralink is potentially a way to allow paraplegics to regain some use of their limbs. A laudable goal. Possibly one day Neuralink will be a method to have a better typewriter. So you can mentally transmit text to a computer. It would be handy dandy. But no I ain't interested in getting a hole in my head in order to type faster, my keyboard is plenty fast enough for me. Undoubtedly some people will want a hole in their head, just because they think it would be cool. Most likely the best Neuralink will do is allow paraplegics to have some rudimentary use of their non-functional limbs some day. Although a lot of analysts figure Neuralink is gonna go belly up.
The REAL human modification of concern by a factor of a 1000X is this mRNA DNA editing (compulsory through vaccine mandates) which even the Covid vaccine does. That is a dangerous path that is right here, right now. Believe it. Forget Neuralink. Forget Transhumanism. That is fake news and a distraction. The REAL problem is the Davos psychopath parasites are Malthusians. And want enforced poverty combined with major population reduction. Musk wants population growth.
Humm, considering the effort and brain power that increasingly appear will be required to navigate the new millennium, do think Musk would rather populate Mars with driven survivors or born parasites? 'Cause I believe a huge pre-test is coming up.
Volunteers who will pay to go would be his objective. Mars will not be an escape for Earth "survivors", the number who could go to Mars will be insignificant compared to the World population.
I now want to post the meme of the little girl gleefully crossing her fingers.
I happened to see this poll prior to not attack and it was 54 for 44 against. Pretty big swing there. Lol.
As far as the which Elon do you like more, wish their had been a choice of the one who supports democracy and an end to bloodshed.
I'm reminded of the scene in "Gone With The Wind" where Rhett Butler tells a roomful of Southern boys how futile it will be to go to war with the North. They respond by yelling at and deriding him, then running out as fast as they can to join the Southern forces. Of course, they all end up dead in the long run.
I can't believe how so many want to continue the war and are so far removed from humankind they don't even care about the loss of human life that entails. Bring on the bot/human transition, people are too stupid to exist as they are.
It's very easy to be pro-war when you know you won't end up in a foxhole.
My father is career military, a lifer so to speak. He, his colleagues and friends both his age and mine and younger too are all as anti-war as you can be without being a hippie.
Because they are soldiers, they've done tours of duty in warzones, and they know what war is.
The businessmen and bankers puppeteering politicians and media and thereby us are all fortunate sons with the silver spoon firmly lodged you-know-where.
There's too much money being funneled to corrupt parties in Ukraine. They don't want to the money to stop, and so they don't want any assistance to stop the war.
Ukrain will fight exactly as long as they are told (by US). The goal of the Military Industrial Intelligence Complex (MIIC) is not peace or reduce conflict, but rather to expand the Empire. By any means necessary. I trust Elon knows this - he is a smart man.
Wanting peace and supporting the Ukraine military with $80 million of Starlink indicate a lack of coherent thought on Musk's part, especially if he expects Ukraine to lose.
"Every time Oleksiy and his fellow artillerymen hit a Russian target, they have one person to thank: Elon Musk, the world’s richest man." https://www.politico.eu/article/elon-musk-ukraine-starlink/
He ain't the World's richest man, not even close, that's all bullshit. The Bankster club are $trillionaires, Rothschilds, Rockefellers, etc., they just hide their wealth and tell rags like Forbes, do not print our wealth or else.
My God, stop with the Twitter already.
I tell myself that every day but how else to know what the bots are thinking?
Actually a solid point
Great point. Gotta know your enemy.