Just a Russian invasion? The US coming to the rescue? Or turning into a US proxy war which they would prefer would drag out for as long as possible, no matter the human costs?
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Lol, ok. Not that I believe it's that simple, but even if it were, they pissed away in a matter of months what you claim took 30 years to squirrel away. Great work lads! Hope you kept the receipts.
Well, they had a GNP/CAP of about $5.15bn in 1995, and $30.65bn in 2020. I'd call that a good job, especially compared to how certain nations in Asia, Africa and South america despite heaps better starting positions when gaining independence still manage to make an absolute dog's dinner of it.
Estonia isn't some poor Ruristan-style backwater, hasn't been for at least 15 years.
Bloody Clintonite Democrats thinking they will win the 2022 midterms if we are in a prolonged conflict. I have been warning Liberals for a decade at least, Russia is the crown jewel in regime change doctrine, your leadership wants a war against Russia. They mocked me for saying so, now they are gnashing teeth and foaming at the mouth.
It's a war of U.S. vs Russia. NATO at this point is just a gang with U.S. as the elder (gang parlance). Neither side can afford to lose can they? It's existential for Russia but equally so for the NATO alliance for if they fail to crush Russia it proves the the alliance to be worthless. It's a geopolitical game of chicken at this point. As for lasting for years - I think Russia has learned from experience that long military wars, proxy or otherwise are unsustainable. My best guess is they will not allow this conflict to continue indefinitely and will give the American deep state a final bloody nose at some point this year. I'm far from am educated expert though.
Remember that this war is Russia vs. the Globalists, not simply Russia vs. Ukraine, although it is that. It is also important to keep in mind that Zelenskyy is a Globalist wannabe and his country has been the happy hunting ground for globalist experiments including bio-weapons research financed and sponsored by the US, among other things. Zelenskyy would like nothing better than to break free from Russian hegemony and join the Globalist west, which is the proximate cause of this war and is exactly what Putin is trying to stop. Also keep in mind that the US is World Headquarters for the Globalists, not Switzerland.The $4.7 Billion you see on the above chart, particularly in relation to the other numbers, at least partially reflects this.
The vast money printing that the US has undertaken in recent years, on a scale that dwarfs the rest of the world, is the tool chest for both domestic and international tyranny. Another very important factor here is the US dollar. If it can be toppled as the world’s reserve currency, which China and Russia are working very hard to do, the game, or perhaps the war if it expands beyond Ukraine, shifts dramatically. These conflicts, unlike WWII, have no good side versus bad side. The American people are not on board with any of this. If we can reverse the devastating coup that happened a year and a half ago then this global debacle could be halted, but time is not on our side. It is, granted, a big If.
Arguably China is in more internal peril than even the US right now, with Xi fighting for his political survival. The CCP’s, perhaps more accurately referred to a Xi’s, response to the Covid pandemic has been the 21st century’s greatest political blunder. The CCP seems unable to alter course, trapping themselves in a hell of their own creation. The ground and the stakes are shifting rapidly, in ways that no one can predict.
I was listening to an interview with Chris Hedges yesterday. He hit the nail on the head; this war's (almost) sole purpose is to further enrich the military industrial complex. That's it. This graphic validates that view perfectly. Here's the link.
It's been a proxy war since 2014, given the $15 billion in aid the US has provided. Trump interfered by asking questions, which triggered an impeachment by Democrats in the House. If you imagine, as VP, Biden was point man on Ukraine for purely diplomatic reasons, you've missed the plot. Ukraine is a cash cow, and 10% for the Big Guy, is 21st century American-style corruption.
It has always been a proxy war between the US and Russia. It started in 2008 and turned up a notch in 2014. Feb 2022 was only its most recent and hopefully the last phase :(
the united states gov is controlled by cartels of arms companies and pharmaceutical companies and firms trying to sell so called "green" tech. Every agency, every institution is completely corrupted by industry money. Its a giant fascist corporatist toxic mess. each industry is trying to secure special treatment for itself so it can market and sell its products under the guise of humanitarian concern or civil rights crusades. The whole trangender issue is really a giant push by pharma and the medical industry and the counseling lobbies to "sell" this idea of transgender rights so they can sell meds and surgeries. Its a giant lobbying and advertising campaign masquerading as a civil rights crusade. Its the same thing as cigarette companies marketing to adolescents to get them hooked. THOSE ads were banned from commercial TV remember? So taypayer funded school should have a 100 % ban on discussing human sexuality beyond simple discussions of human reproductive physiology
Well, the American public always falls for it so why would they stop now? (If only Eisenhower hadn't accelerated the destruction of our society with the interstate highway program, he'd have been our wisest [only wise?] modern President.)
Declare independence and let go of Crimea is their best bet. It's all Russia is asking g for to my knowledge, and it's not unreasonable. If they agree, and NATO stops supplying weapons, the bloodshed will end the same day.
Err... How about a bit of clarity? It would be a US "proxy war" if the US were using Ukraine as a proxy against Russia, or against a proxy of Russia. But Russia is on the territory of Ukraine, and it's also committing war crimes and acts of genocide. Calling Ukraine a "proxy" in this would be like saying the USSR was a "proxy" for the Allies against Hitler.
Is it.. fair to say. Here we go again & again...? Democrats/progressives GoV love war... money spend, don’t care for humans 💀, they end up destroying everything ☠️💀 and take peoples freedom.
Biden just approved an $85M Raytheon weapons deal for Chile.
Biden’s Secretary of Defense was a Raytheon board member prior to joining the administration and still owns between $500K & $1.7M in Raytheon stocks.
12/8/2020 Jewhadi™
I'm guessing not many, including @JoeBiden, remember this from 2015. Apparently **General Lloyd Austin engaged in "pressuring CENTCOM intel staff to promote 'good news'" about the fight against ISIS, "despite much evidence to the contrary. The rumors can now be verified."
It would be interesting, for comparison, to publish a similar picture with US help to UK and USSR in the World War II. Perhaps you would find another US proxy war there somewhere if you look hard enough, you bloody moron? And to think I was reading your crap for half a year now...
Did I say it was? A question mark means I am asking a question. A question for people to discuss. If I knew the answer I would have written an article about it.
But as you asked, and as MaryJane, says below, the US charged the UK everything it lent them during WW2. It wasn't until 2006 that those debts were paid off.
:Confessions of an Economic Hitman" by John Perkins is very eye-opening as to all this "help". Heard "War is a racket" is good, too, but have not read it.
Butler's observations are just as applicable today as they were in 1935. Technology and population growth have rendered the consequences catastrophically damaging.
Excellent recommendation. The military industrial complex didn't start in the Eisenhower administration. Butler is also the guy who blew the whistle on a 1933 coup plan.
Where did little Estonia get a quarter billion to throw on the bonfire?
From throwing off the yoke of soviet communism and working their asses off building up their nation for thirty years?
Lol, ok. Not that I believe it's that simple, but even if it were, they pissed away in a matter of months what you claim took 30 years to squirrel away. Great work lads! Hope you kept the receipts.
Well, they had a GNP/CAP of about $5.15bn in 1995, and $30.65bn in 2020. I'd call that a good job, especially compared to how certain nations in Asia, Africa and South america despite heaps better starting positions when gaining independence still manage to make an absolute dog's dinner of it.
Estonia isn't some poor Ruristan-style backwater, hasn't been for at least 15 years.
Mr. Juggernaut might have been wondering, as do I, if they're simply being used as a money laundering conduit.
Bloody Clintonite Democrats thinking they will win the 2022 midterms if we are in a prolonged conflict. I have been warning Liberals for a decade at least, Russia is the crown jewel in regime change doctrine, your leadership wants a war against Russia. They mocked me for saying so, now they are gnashing teeth and foaming at the mouth.
Not just Dems though. A fair few Reps are baying for Russian blood too.
Yes, the old neocons found an embrace and new life in the New Democratic Party, which is become the party of empire and increasing imperialism.
What they want is Russian gold, diamonds and natural resources
A la Libya where Qaddafi's body wasn't even cold before they swooped in and took Libya's gold.
How can it turn into what it always has been?
Precisely
"no matter the human costs"
- "Oh, but vee do care about ze yuman cost, veRy much so, don't vee, Mr. Little Castro? Ah ha ha ha ha ha hah!"
(Imagine a scene with Dr. Klaus Evil, ruffling his favorite Canadian lap cat...)
It's a war of U.S. vs Russia. NATO at this point is just a gang with U.S. as the elder (gang parlance). Neither side can afford to lose can they? It's existential for Russia but equally so for the NATO alliance for if they fail to crush Russia it proves the the alliance to be worthless. It's a geopolitical game of chicken at this point. As for lasting for years - I think Russia has learned from experience that long military wars, proxy or otherwise are unsustainable. My best guess is they will not allow this conflict to continue indefinitely and will give the American deep state a final bloody nose at some point this year. I'm far from am educated expert though.
This is the war of Ukrainians for their independence
I hope you are wrong. I fear you are right.
Another chart which proves my idea that this war will be dragging on at least 5 years. Worst case 10.
I don't think twenty is a stretch!
I think covid agenda will go on parallel with the war.
Remember that this war is Russia vs. the Globalists, not simply Russia vs. Ukraine, although it is that. It is also important to keep in mind that Zelenskyy is a Globalist wannabe and his country has been the happy hunting ground for globalist experiments including bio-weapons research financed and sponsored by the US, among other things. Zelenskyy would like nothing better than to break free from Russian hegemony and join the Globalist west, which is the proximate cause of this war and is exactly what Putin is trying to stop. Also keep in mind that the US is World Headquarters for the Globalists, not Switzerland.The $4.7 Billion you see on the above chart, particularly in relation to the other numbers, at least partially reflects this.
The vast money printing that the US has undertaken in recent years, on a scale that dwarfs the rest of the world, is the tool chest for both domestic and international tyranny. Another very important factor here is the US dollar. If it can be toppled as the world’s reserve currency, which China and Russia are working very hard to do, the game, or perhaps the war if it expands beyond Ukraine, shifts dramatically. These conflicts, unlike WWII, have no good side versus bad side. The American people are not on board with any of this. If we can reverse the devastating coup that happened a year and a half ago then this global debacle could be halted, but time is not on our side. It is, granted, a big If.
Arguably China is in more internal peril than even the US right now, with Xi fighting for his political survival. The CCP’s, perhaps more accurately referred to a Xi’s, response to the Covid pandemic has been the 21st century’s greatest political blunder. The CCP seems unable to alter course, trapping themselves in a hell of their own creation. The ground and the stakes are shifting rapidly, in ways that no one can predict.
I was listening to an interview with Chris Hedges yesterday. He hit the nail on the head; this war's (almost) sole purpose is to further enrich the military industrial complex. That's it. This graphic validates that view perfectly. Here's the link.
https://rumble.com/v11sxmm-chris-hedges-on-ukraine-and-russia.html?mref=6zof&mc=dgip3&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=acTVism+Munich&ep=2
Just like I said on Sundance's site, most of this is going to weapon "bazaars" in Africa.
Colonel MacGregor Tells Tucker Carlson No One Knows Where These US Weapons Are Going
https://www.unz.com/aanglin/colonel-macgregor-tells-tucker-carlson-no-one-knows-where-these-us-weapons-are-going/
Popcorn sales in China must be through the roof.
Apparently not - in Shanghai, at least.
Trump just implied Taiwan is in play
It's been a proxy war since 2014, given the $15 billion in aid the US has provided. Trump interfered by asking questions, which triggered an impeachment by Democrats in the House. If you imagine, as VP, Biden was point man on Ukraine for purely diplomatic reasons, you've missed the plot. Ukraine is a cash cow, and 10% for the Big Guy, is 21st century American-style corruption.
It has always been a proxy war between the US and Russia. It started in 2008 and turned up a notch in 2014. Feb 2022 was only its most recent and hopefully the last phase :(
You mean started 2008 in Syria or somewhere else? Real start between US and Russia goes back all the way to Korea.
It was never US v Russia. It was always Kazars v Rus
the united states gov is controlled by cartels of arms companies and pharmaceutical companies and firms trying to sell so called "green" tech. Every agency, every institution is completely corrupted by industry money. Its a giant fascist corporatist toxic mess. each industry is trying to secure special treatment for itself so it can market and sell its products under the guise of humanitarian concern or civil rights crusades. The whole trangender issue is really a giant push by pharma and the medical industry and the counseling lobbies to "sell" this idea of transgender rights so they can sell meds and surgeries. Its a giant lobbying and advertising campaign masquerading as a civil rights crusade. Its the same thing as cigarette companies marketing to adolescents to get them hooked. THOSE ads were banned from commercial TV remember? So taypayer funded school should have a 100 % ban on discussing human sexuality beyond simple discussions of human reproductive physiology
Well, the American public always falls for it so why would they stop now? (If only Eisenhower hadn't accelerated the destruction of our society with the interstate highway program, he'd have been our wisest [only wise?] modern President.)
Suggestion: Substitute "sane" for "wise"
I dunno. Destroying small towns and thriving urban neighborhoods seems mighty insane to me.
Do you offer Ukrainians to surrender to end the war?
Declare independence and let go of Crimea is their best bet. It's all Russia is asking g for to my knowledge, and it's not unreasonable. If they agree, and NATO stops supplying weapons, the bloodshed will end the same day.
Ooof
Marine Le Pen summed it up best:
It’s the Globalists against the People!
germany is an embarrassment.
It rhymes with Epoxy Floor, also Boxy Bore and Doxy Galore.
Err... How about a bit of clarity? It would be a US "proxy war" if the US were using Ukraine as a proxy against Russia, or against a proxy of Russia. But Russia is on the territory of Ukraine, and it's also committing war crimes and acts of genocide. Calling Ukraine a "proxy" in this would be like saying the USSR was a "proxy" for the Allies against Hitler.
War crimes started in 2014, and not by Russia at all
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Is it.. fair to say. Here we go again & again...? Democrats/progressives GoV love war... money spend, don’t care for humans 💀, they end up destroying everything ☠️💀 and take peoples freedom.
Probably doesn't mean anything, right?
Biden’s Pentagon Pick Has Deep Defense Industry Ties. Now It Could Complicate His Nomination.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/12/lloyd-austin-defense-secretary-raytheon-joe-biden/
Biden just approved an $85M Raytheon weapons deal for Chile.
Biden’s Secretary of Defense was a Raytheon board member prior to joining the administration and still owns between $500K & $1.7M in Raytheon stocks.
12/8/2020 Jewhadi™
I'm guessing not many, including @JoeBiden, remember this from 2015. Apparently **General Lloyd Austin engaged in "pressuring CENTCOM intel staff to promote 'good news'" about the fight against ISIS, "despite much evidence to the contrary. The rumors can now be verified."
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1336160941956870145.html
It would be interesting, for comparison, to publish a similar picture with US help to UK and USSR in the World War II. Perhaps you would find another US proxy war there somewhere if you look hard enough, you bloody moron? And to think I was reading your crap for half a year now...
Did I say it was? A question mark means I am asking a question. A question for people to discuss. If I knew the answer I would have written an article about it.
But as you asked, and as MaryJane, says below, the US charged the UK everything it lent them during WW2. It wasn't until 2006 that those debts were paid off.
:Confessions of an Economic Hitman" by John Perkins is very eye-opening as to all this "help". Heard "War is a racket" is good, too, but have not read it.
Land lease is not "help".
Butler's observations are just as applicable today as they were in 1935. Technology and population growth have rendered the consequences catastrophically damaging.
Exactly!
Excellent recommendation. The military industrial complex didn't start in the Eisenhower administration. Butler is also the guy who blew the whistle on a 1933 coup plan.
Make sure to download and print it out too. Who knows when documents such as that one will become "terrorism"?